The most frequent problems on SsangYong New Actyon. SsangYong Actyon. Large consequences of a small defect problem after washing engine Santeng Aktion

10.07.2020 Information

Many compatriots were very happy to see the line of cars from Korean SsangYong on the Russian market. It would be necessary: \u200b\u200byou can take the "per million" off-road parckarter in full mince, with the factory guarantee, and other essaying gaze gleam. The reality turned out to be a little less iris, and the attitude towards these Korean cars with the owners, in general, ambiguous. And not everyone is treated with direct hands of the service and a hundred - let's understand why.

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This is not an SUV

The Korean model range - and this is Cairon, Rector, Aktion and Exotic Nomad and POCK - they say to us: "Look, I am a big off-road machine." Right "Jip on Polfesta". This is not true. Not at all. The entire model range in the base state is at best, urban and family cars.

All Koreans SY is not such a large output of power from the engine. To go along the highway more than 90 km / h becomes a problem: the dynamics does not allow convincingly to overtake, the speed set is up to 110-120 and further occurs reluctantly. With speeds 130-140, we do not recommend ride at all, what will be discussed.

An attempt to use SY as a real SUV will quickly end, without starting: mechanical strength in the nodes of this car is not observed. The base and radius of the turn - not for rough terrain at all. Off-road dynamics leaves much to be desired, and the cost of subsequent repairs will finally convince the owner that the idea was so-so.

Call on the border, or dig out of the snow can. But do not wait for them more.

Half problems and unjustified expectations flow from inconsistency external view and internal possibilities. But not only. Let's go on the list.

Common faults

Weak suspension

On the pendant of the Koreans complains every second owner. If briefly, it is overly rigid and rough when controlled, and is overlooking the "breakage". This is related constructive features Bridges and designs, do nothing with it. On the models of recent years, the manufacturer (making conclusions for repair) puts reinforced components, but it does not change in principle.

Optics

Almost every SY from the salon is blind. But here everything is simple, the lamps are changing to normal, something can be "twisted". If you do not think about it in advance, at dusk, the generic sublepping may be unpleasant to surprise.

Course stability

Sick place for all the first generations of SY Koreans. Partly connected with the wealth - they have the center of the masses higher than we are accustomed, partly with the properties of the suspension. Sushangyong faults here wholesale.

Each second feedback on the forums in 2010-2013 looked like this: "I don't touch food on the highway, I don't touch anyone, opa! "And the car flies somewhere."

The manufacturer made conclusions as far as he could. But the precipitate remained. The machine behaves strange and illogical. According to the owners, the situation could correct the full drive, but at the speeds of the route it does not work. The inclination to the failure of the fasteners only adds ambiguity.

The fact that the height and weighing is wines that the renewed recouctor - which is lower and squat - from these generic problems almost got rid of.

For long journeys along the highway, cars are not strongly adapted from the point of view of comfort. Relaxing the car does not give, there is no cruise control. Not UAZ, of course, but experience per amateur.

Winter

With winter, Koreans are bad. At temperatures less than -10, get ready to run with anti-frozen, find out "why it does not start" and go to the service on the tow truck.

Ball supports

The unsuccessful structural element of the first generations of SY positive emotions to the owners also did not add. Ball supports flew out of fasteners on the go, without visible causes, a car in a cuvette, well if people are alive.

This is a factory marriage, replacing guarantees, but a replacement was made somehow sluggish: until now, there are many Koreans on the secondary market, where no one changed anything, and Svangigyong's problems remained.

Problems also manifest with the rest of the mechanical fasteners of the carrier parts of SY cars. Whether the dynamic loads were poorly considered, or simply welding quality. But there is a risk that some necessary part fall off at an unnecessary moment. Gentlemen, but this is not UAZ, in fact.

Injectors

If the Korean flows the nozzles, then they flow with the soul, entirely on all the money.

It is solved by replacing the nozzles. Manifest after 30-35 thousand km mileage. The factory marriage fails, they are just that they are. Some configurations are lucky, and everything is fine. The patterns have not yet been identified.

Automatic

Cairons are diagnosed with factory marriage with a control board in automatic transmission. Changes under warranty. But there is quite a lot of coming. Manifests usually after 40 thousand, in recent generations promised to correct.

Again the suspension

It did not work out from the manufacturer with the rear bridges. Especially if the owner considered his car an SUV, and after 40-45 thousand. And nothing, but the new bridges assembled to the whole of Russia are not enough, and you have to wait for the spare part for months, telling friends and neighbors that Koreans are so-so repair.

Fatal 50 thousand

Let's truth in the eye. The Koreans begin to raise the Koreans to their 50,000 mileage, with significant parts, and with risk for the owner.

On the other hand, the price tag of Korean is such that allows you to take exactly the new SsangYong, instead of a used Japanese. And "to 50 to sell." The only problem is that everyone who lived to the fatal feature is trying to sell.

Take or not take?

If we are talking about new car - why not. If you understand the limitations of the Korean ruler, and do not require the machine impossible. In fact, it is urban and family, sometimes a country car, which is occasionally - occasionally! - Maybe to show yourself as an SUV.

If we are talking about secondary market, Think twice. Possible problems that did not appear at the past owner, and are waiting for you, this car is not at all cosmetic. Repair SsangYong. The case is not cheap. The Korean does not reinforce the "sledgehammer and plaster" as a UAZ or old Japanese, and collect from the car a compartment repair you risks with all possible uncertainty.

If you have already there is KoreanSY. - Now you know the possible places of "birth" problems. This, by the way, does not mean that everything else will not fall apart. But pay attention to these nodes for a hundred. If your car does not replace defective blocks, think about replacing as soon as possible.

SsangYong New Actyon is offered with two types of 2 liter power units: 149 hp gasoline. and diesel 149 hp Initially, diesel was offered in two variations - 149 hp and 175 hp


The gasoline engine received a number of complaints. Many owners periodically at the start of the cold engine notice the bryakanny or short "roar". Outsided sounds are "born" not at each engine launch and can occur both on new cars and already exploited for a while.


Another more serious disadvantage is "Winter Start": Floating turns, and the engine stalls immediately after launching or after some time. The manufacturer tried to solve the problem of the engine control program correction. But this method Helped not to everyone. Some auto mechanics suggested that the cause of the troubles lies in the wrong angle of installation of the fuel ramp: the air supply and "fading" was noticed near the nozzles. " People's method"- Send the ramp and change the sealing rings. According to the owners who have done such a refinement, the engine began to work softer, and the turnover stopped swimming.


The diesel engine periodically delivers inconvenience due to the small resource of the exhaust gas temperature sensor on the turbocharger: the "check" lights up, the cruise control does not turn on. Sensor resource 20-40 thousand km, although there are quite a few owners away from more than 50 thousand km without problems. Faulty dealers sensor change under warranty. The cost of the sensor from the "Officials" about 5-6 thousand rubles, in the spare parts store - about 3-5 thousand rubles.


A 6-step mechanical and automatic gearbox work in a pair with motors.


New Actyon owners with MCPP note the tight inclusion of the 1st and 2nd gears accompanied by a knock or crunch. After several tens of thousands of kilometers, the problem is usually leaving. Separate owners got rid of lack by adjusting the thrust of the switch lever.


On the diesel versions of New Aktion installed "Avtomat" Australian origin DSI M78 AT. Many marks the appearance of jolts when switching the box with 1st to 2nd or after stopping, less often when switching 2-3. The manufacturer tried to solve the problem of changing the firmware of the Box EBU, but the update helps not everyone. When trying to change in the box, the working fluid was detected by nothing on the conveyor from 0.5 to 1.5 liters of transmission. Unfortunately, the change of fluid and bringing it to normal, the problem of the jog did not solve.


Gasoline versions are equipped with an "machine" Hyundai, which is installed on a potential competitor - the crossover IX35. There are no problems with this box.

Separate owners make claims to the full drive system, finding the system of late. But there are no errors in the system, and the real cases of refusal have not been identified.


The front suspension SsangYong New Actyon often begins to knock on the first ten thousand kilometers. Panacea does not exist: individual copies helped the suspension of the fastening of the supports of the front racks, another tightening of the central nut on the shock absorber. Replacing the support bearings does not solve the problem. The rest have come and drive, not paying attention to periodic knocks in the suspension.


In case of inspection of the chassis when running more than 20-40 thousand km, the dust of the anther exterior Sls of the front semi-axis is often detected. The cost of the new anther in dealers about 1.5-2 thousand rubles, in the online store 1-1.5 thousand rubles. Part of the owners when running more than 30-50 thousand km, faced the need to replace the toupered front hub bearing. Sometimes, when inspecting the suspension, the destruction of the rear stabilizer bracket is detected, it is the bracket holder of the rear stabilizer sleeve.


Separate Actyon owners mark the appearance of a crunch or clicks when the steering is rotated from the extreme position in the opposite. Warranty replacement of the lower part of the steering shaft assembly with EUR solved the problem. The cost of the node is about 70-75 thousand rubles.


Body iron and painting quality are traditionally for modern cars. Metal in places of chips blooms in a couple of days. Over time, chips appear on the rear wings at the upper points of the rear lights. Probable reason - Excessive boot door mobility during diagonal load. Chrome elements of the body finish after a couple of winters are muttered and sometimes begin to worry, especially on the nameplates and bar of the trunk doors.


Frequently detected cracking of the top stop signal. Most likely the lantern overheats, which indirectly confirms the deterioration of the rear windshield gauge embedded into the lantern - water boats. In winter, when freezing the liquid, filled into the washer, squeezes out of the seating places of the front windshield carrier. The cost of a set of nozzles is about 400 rubles.

Often, problems with windows occur, more often than rear: first work once, and then they stop responding at all. Authorized services produce a replacement of electo-core guarantees (about 3 thousand rubles). Possible reason Malfunctions - an insufficient amount of lubrication in rollers and pushed guides, as a result, the electromotor does not withstand a constant load.

Plastic in the cabin often creaks, especially with the arrival of cold weather. His lept in the accompaniment on irregularities makes the backup hopper. After the first tent of thousands of kilometers, the steering wheel coating is often starting. Unfortunately, not all dealers go towards the client and change the "bald" steering wheel under warranty.


It was not without a pair of "glitches" of electrical systems. One of them, turning off cruise control. The reason is described at the very beginning of the article - failure of the exhaust gas temperature sensor on the turbocharger.


Another occurs to an acton equipped with ESP. The owners are faced with highlighting the "garlands" from ESP + ABS + the handbrake alarm, which is sometimes "seasoned" by the EUR faults and the Full Drive System "Check AWD". Highlighting the scoreboard, as a rule, occurs immediately after the development of ESP in winter on ice, more often on an uneven surface. It is worth noting that this situation occurs not at each operation of the system. After turning off the ignition, the "glitch" goes, and the system continues to work in normal mode. Solving the problem and explanations of the nature of the origin of the "phenomenon" from dealers at the moment there is not.

20.05.2018

Car SsangYong New Actyon / Korando C Year 2013 2.0 D20DTI

According to the client, the car in motion periodically started to "pull" and did not react to the gas pedal. During the movement, the failure manifested itself repeatedly. The car was normally rode, then, as rested in the wall.

The scanner issued the following errors:
Troubleshooting Codes.
P0633 (00) Immobilizer (Defective)
P0671 (00) Glow Plug Cylinder 3 - Open in the Chain
P0672 (00) Glow Plug Cylinder 4 - Open in the Chain
P0674 (00) Glow Plug Cylinder 1 - Open in the Chain
P1124 (00) Accelerator Pedal Position MalFunction Stuck

Errors Р0633, Р0671, Р0672, Р0674 are not related to the challenge challenged. Work on these errors postpone the future. The only error indicating the client's complaint is P1124 (00) Accelerator Pedal Position MalFunction Stuck.

This error directly indicates a possible source of failure in operation - Accelerator Pedal Position. The pedal position sensor can be defective, the wiring between the pedal position sensor and the control unit (ECM) itself, the engine control unit itself (ECM), as well as there may be external factors affecting the engine control unit (ECM). When checking in place in the service on a working car, the failure does not appear. The motor reacts to the gas pedal, the R1124 error is not exhibited. Check in motion.

We write parameters
1. Engine Speed
2. Speed \u200b\u200bSensor
3. PEDAL POSITION SWITCH
4. PEDAL POSITION SWITCH N1
5. PEDAL POSITION SWITCH N2

Here is a screen (below), where the failure does not appear, and the car reacts to the pedal. PEDAL POSITION SWITCH N1- 28.22% PEDAL POSITION SWITCH N2- 27.84% PEDAL POSITION SWITCH- 28.01%

And literally after a few seconds ECM in the presence of Pedal Position SWITCH N1-26.27% and Pedal Position Switch N2 - 26.27% exposes a total setting signal PEDAL POSITION SWITCH-0%

It is not clear why with the time difference in a few seconds the DCM3.7 motor control unit sets the Pedal Position Switch parameter, then the corresponding PEDAL POSITION SWITCH N1, N2 signals, then ignores these signals and defines the PEDAL POSITION switch-0%.

Perhaps some navigation makes it no interference in the Pedal Position SWITCH N1, N2 signals. To check this version to the Pedal Position Switch N1, N2 connection signal points on the DCM3.7 connector, an autoscope was attached. 4. The oscillogram was recorded during the manifestation of the engine.

Oscillogram shows that both Pedal Position Switch N1, N2 signals do not have noise and interference. Pedal Position Switch N1 and Pedal Position Switch N2 voltage differ approximately 2 times in the entire range of work.

By the signal obtained using an autoscope, we can conclude that the pedal position sensor and the wiring from the pedal to the control unit is working. So, there is an external factor forcing the ECM with the correct PEDAL POSITION SWITCH N1, N2 signals, set the calculated Pedal Position Switch -0% setting.

Scanning all error systems did not reveal. Then it became clear that to solve the problem you need to delve into the mangrove jungle of the nonlinear logic of Sokolov Kim Il Hayen, which is fraught with irreversible changes in the cerebral cortex. And it can end with a cheerful journey with sanitary cars in Kashchenko. The prospect did not inspire. It was decided the hardest shift to other people's shoulders. Through a friend, I learned the phone number of the electrician from the Ssang-Yong dealer station. This courageous man at first could not understand what they want from him. I understood, I said that he had no such. Maybe it was not really, and maybe it was not to say. And maybe just did not want to get out of the cozy nest in the roots of Banyan. But as they write in detectives, "the investigation went into a dead end." And I climbed into the car and began to thoughtlessly look at the buttons and light bulbs in the hope of unexpected inspiration. And indeed, what a randomly lost Pegasus had fallen me with his hoof. And I clicked on the brake pedal, asking at the same time, who rushed past a locksmith, see if all the stop signals are burning. He confirmed that everything was burning. On the DCM3.7 connection scheme, it can be seen that the ECM is connected to the brake pedal sensor, which can affect the calculated PEDAL POSITION SWITCH parameter

Checking the brake pedal sensor showed its serviceability. However, it suddenly found out that when the brake pedal was pressed together with the "Stop" signals, dimensional signals were light. And, on the contrary, when you turn on Interior Light, the signals "Stop" light up. Here it is! Eureka! Next, the case of technology. The reason for such a work was the closure inside the double light bulb "Gabrité-Stop", which was the cause of the malfunction. Movement according to the rules of the road was carried out with the light headlight on the light and overall lights. Through the closed spiral of the Gabrit-Stop light bulb in DCM3.7, a signal came about the allegedly pressed brake pedal. At the same time, when you press ACCELERATOR PEDAL POSITION, ESM received it for a false signal, put an error P1124 (00) ACCELERATOR PEDAL POSITION MALFUNCTION STUCK and limited the movement, taking the calculated PEDAL POSITION switch-0% setting. There were no other mistakes in all ECU of the car, which complicated the search.

Very soon I kept in my hand a double light bulb that closed in between the spirals. The replacement of this key part amazingly led to the indications of the position of the gas pedal to normal. And strengthened confidence in me in the invincibility of the great sons of Kim.